FamilyLife Today® Podcast

Leaving a Legacy of Enduring Faith

with Dan Orlovsky, Jon Kitna, Josh McCown | November 26, 2021
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Dave and Ann Wilson continue their conversation with NFL players Dan Orlovsky, Jon Kitna, and Josh McCown. They talk about the lasting legacy of their years together in Detroit, not just playing football but also letting their light shine (Matthew 5:16). They offer wisdom to parents raising kids who play sports, answering questions like: "Should parents allow their children to play football given all we now know about head injuries (CTE)?" and "Should we allow our son to play travel baseball?

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  • Dave and Ann Wilson

    Dave and Ann Wilson are hosts of FamilyLife Today®, FamilyLife’s nationally-syndicated radio program. Dave and Ann have been married for more than 38 years and have spent the last 33 teaching and mentoring couples and parents across the country. They have been featured speakers at FamilyLife’s Weekend to Remember® marriage getaway since 1993 and have also hosted their own marriage conferences across the country. Cofounders of Kensington Church—a national, multicampus church that hosts more than 14,000 visitors every weekend—the Wilsons are the creative force behind DVD teaching series Rock Your Marriage and The Survival Guide To Parenting, as well as authors of the recently released book Vertical Marriage (Zondervan, 2019). Dave is a graduate of the International School of Theology, where he received a Master of Divinity degree. A Ball State University Hall of Fame quarterback, Dave served the Detroit Lions as chaplain for 33 years. Ann attended the University of Kentucky. She has been active alongside Dave in ministry as a speaker, writer, small-group leader, and mentor to countless wives of professional athletes. The Wilsons live in the Detroit area. They have three grown sons, CJ, Austin, and Cody, three daughters-in-law, and a growing number of grandchildren.

NFL players Dan Orlovsky, Jon Kitna, and Josh McCown talk about the lasting legacy of their years together in Detroit, not just playing football but also letting their light shine.

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Bob: You know, for a lot of families, football really is a big deal, whether you watch it or play it. Wherever you are in that continuum, it’s very important for a lot of people. But I think what we’ve heard today isthat,even guys who play at the professional level, some of them understand where football fits into the reality of the rest of life—that football, even being a big deal, can’t be the most important thing—it can’t be an idol. That’s something all of us have to be on guard against, not just with football, but with any activity. Anything that you prioritize in your life that is a big deal to you, you’ve got to make sure you understand where that fits into the totality of life.

We’ve been listening today to three former NFL quarterbacks: Jon Kitna, Josh McCown and Dan Orlovsky talk with Dave and Ann Wilson about a great spiritual movement that happened among the Detroit Lions, years ago, when God moved powerfully in that locker room. You may know somebody, who’s a football fan, who would enjoy listening to this conversation with Dave and Ann and with these three former NFL players. The podcast is available online at

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With that, we’ve got to wrap up for today. Thanks for joining us. Hope you have a great weekend. Hope you and your family are able to worship together with your local church this weekend. And I hope you can join us on Monday when we’re going to look at the only way that Jesus describes Himself in the Bible. It’s where He calls Himself “gentle and lowly of heart [Matthew 11:29].” Dane Ortlund will be here with us to talk about why that description is so significant and what we can learn from it. I hope you can be with us here for that.

On behalf of our hosts, Dave and Ann Wilson, I’m Bob Lepine. Have a great weekend. We’ll see you Monday for another edition of FamilyLife Today.


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