Kicking Shame To The Curb: Ron & Nan Deal

Shame: It can gut you like a fish. Counselor Ron Deal chats about shame, his own story, and why giving shame the boot is non-negotiable.

Could shame be killing your marriage? Counselor Ron Deal and his wife Nan know shame can keep you from being intimate and vulnerable. Time to fight back. View Show Notes →
"I feel like I'm always holding back the real me." Counselor Ron Deal knows shame can keep us fake, isolated, and voiceless. He also knows the way out. View Show Notes →
Shame: It can gut you like a fish. Counselor Ron Deal chats about shame, his own story, and why giving shame the boot is non-negotiable. View Show Notes →

Meet Series Guests

Nan Deal

Nan Deal is the co-founder of Connor's Song, a non-profit organization that she and her husband founded in honor of their son Connor Lee Deal who died at the age of 12 in 2009. In cooperation with the Touch A Life Foundation, Connor's Song run Connor Creative Art Center in Ghana, West Africa, a facility that provides hope and healing through art therapy for almost 100 trafficked children rescued from the fishing industry in Ghana. Nan, a school teacher, and her husband, Ron, live in Little Rock, AR and have three sons: Braden, Brennan, and Connor, forever 12. Ron Deal is a marriage and family author, conference speaker, and therapist. He is also director of FamilyLife Blended.

Ron Deal

Ron L. Deal is one of the most widely read and viewed experts on blended families in the country. He is Director of FamilyLife Blended® for FamilyLife®, founder of Smart Stepfamilies™, and the author and Consulting Editor of the Smart Stepfamily Series of books including the bestselling Building Love Together in Blended Families: The 5 Love Languages® and Becoming Stepfamily Smart (with Dr. Gary Chapman), The Smart Stepfamily: 7 Steps to a Healthy Family, and Preparing to Blend. Ron is a licensed marriage and family therapist, popular conference speaker, and host of the FamilyLife Blended podcast. He and his wife, Nan, have three sons and live in Little Rock, Arkansas. Learn more at FamilyLife.com/blended.