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Beating Back Bitterness: Stephen Viars

with Stephen Viars | June 24, 2024
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What's it look like to combat bitterness when you're immersed in pain? Pastor and author Stephen Viars explores the power of lament to give voice and resolution to our deepest grief.

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    Dave and Ann Wilson are hosts of FamilyLife Today®, FamilyLife’s nationally-syndicated radio program. Dave and Ann have been married for more than 38 years and have spent the last 33 teaching and mentoring couples and parents across the country. They have been featured speakers at FamilyLife’s Weekend to Remember® marriage getaway since 1993 and have also hosted their own marriage conferences across the country. Cofounders of Kensington Church—a national, multicampus church that hosts more than 14,000 visitors every weekend—the Wilsons are the creative force behind DVD teaching series Rock Your Marriage and The Survival Guide To Parenting, as well as authors of the recently released book Vertical Marriage (Zondervan, 2019). Dave is a graduate of the International School of Theology, where he received a Master of Divinity degree. A Ball State University Hall of Fame quarterback, Dave served the Detroit Lions as chaplain for 33 years. Ann attended the University of Kentucky. She has been active alongside Dave in ministry as a speaker, writer, small-group leader, and mentor to countless wives of professional athletes. The Wilsons live in the Detroit area. They have three grown sons, CJ, Austin, and Cody, three daughters-in-law, and a growing number of grandchildren.

What’s it look like to combat bitterness? Pastor and author Stephen Viars explores the power of lament to give voice and resolution to our deepest grief.

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Beating Back Bitterness: Stephen Viars

With Stephen Viars
June 24, 2024
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Dave: So, a lot of our listeners, unfortunately or fortunately, know the drama of our ten-year anniversary date that’s the basis of our Vertical Marriage book. I want to ask you because you know, I’ve heard you tell this story a thousand times of how you lost your feelings for me, but when you describe what you felt, you say you went from anger to resentment to bitterness.

Ann: Yes.

Dave: Talk about that a little bit.

Ann: Well, it’s interesting, because it was different. I remember when I was angry with you, [thinking], “Oh, this is just wrong.” It felt wrong. But then, that anger turned to resentfulness—"I’m mad at you!”—but I’m also now resentful. But then, something happened in my heart that became toxic, I feel; like it was poisoning every part of me. I didn’t like you at all, and nothing you could do would make me happy. You felt it, because we lived that!

Dave: I’m smiling though, because how could I think we were doing great? [Laughter]

Shelby: Welcome to FamilyLife Today, where we want to help you pursue the relationships that matter most. I’m Shelby Abbott, and your hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson. You can find us at

Ann: This is FamilyLife Today.

Dave: I knew you were mad. And we were yelling, often, as I was going to another church meeting. But when you talk about bitterness, I know that feeling; so, I’m like, “That’s deeper. That’s inside.” It’s something that we carry, and I don’t think we know how to get rid of.

Ann: Right.

Dave: So, we’re going to talk about bitterness; but more importantly, how it affects our lives, and how we can negotiate it. We have the man to do it with us today. Stephen Viars is with us. He’s written a book on bitterness, Overcoming Bitterness. But first of all, let me say, “Welcome to Family Life®.” I think you’re going to help us [Laughter] and a lot of other people today.

Stephen: Well, and I really hope that’s true. It’s a delight to be here. My goal is just to point all of us to Jesus Christ and point us to the truth of the Word of God. He will never disappoint us, will He?

Dave: No.

Stephen: And the great thing is, there’s hope in this topic.

Ann: Yes.

Stephen: It’s a sad topic. I think about the men and women who might listen to this program, and this one hurts. But the good news is there’s a way out, and our sweet Savior stands ready to help us overcome bitterness.

Dave: Yes; even as I read your book—and I know you’re not just an author—you’re actually, I said this at lunch, a very unique blend of a lead pastor of a church in Lafayette, Indiana—

Ann: —Faith Church.

Dave: —and yet, you have this counseling side and bent, because you lead a counseling ministry. You have—I mean, we sat at lunch, and I heard all these amazing things you’re doing in the counseling world. You’re married; three kids, four grandkids?

Stephen: Yes.

Dave: You know, I’ve got to tell you, when I was reading your book, Overcoming Bitterness: Moving from Life’s Greatest Hurts to a Life Filled with Joy, that’s a big move—

Stephen: —it is.

Dave: —from hurt, not just to better, to joy.

Stephen: That’s right.

Dave: I told Ann, as I was reading it, I was like, “Wow! The bitterness I thought I was over in my life? [Laughter] It’s still looming there pretty big.”

Let’s talk, because I haven’t seen a lot of books written about this. You see forgiveness books, and you talk a lot about that in the book, but to center on the bitterness that’s in our life. Help us understand sort of the root. You know, “Where does this come from? How does it manifest itself in a person’s life?”

Stephen: That’s one of the things I love about the sufficiency of the Word of God. Scripture doesn’t just call upon us to change things behaviorally. So, it’s not simply: “Hey, start doing this,” or “Stop doing that.” I’m so glad that we have a Savior who loves us much more comprehensively than that.

As I got into the study in the Scripture of the topic of bitterness, you find it played off in three very separate categories. The first is the one we just talked about: bitter words or bitter behavior. We all know what that feels like. In fact, the Hebrew word, mara, means the poisonous bile from the gall bladder, of all things. I love how God is just so picturesque. We know what bitter speech is; we know what bitter behavior is. That’s one category that’s very obvious to us.

But when you start unpacking the Word of God, it uses that word group—mara, in Old Testament; pikrós in the New Testament—the word, “bitter,” [is] in two other categories. One that really surprised me was bitter circumstances. This is why none of us can say “Well, I don’t have any bitterness in my life.” Sure we do, because we live in a sin-cursed world. So, bitterness in the Bible is not, first, something I do; it’s first something I face. I face bitter circumstances every day. Every one of our listeners faces bitter circumstances every day.

For example, you have Joseph, whose story comprises a rather significant percentage of the book of Genesis. Well, on his daddy’s deathbed, he [Jacob] gathers all the brothers around, and he starts making these pronouncements about what their lives were like and what their lives are going to be like. When he gets to Joseph, he says, “The archer shot bitter arrows at you.” You talk about an awkward moment!  I mean, who’s he talking about? [Laughter]

Dave: Right.

Stephen: He’s talking about Joseph’s own brothers,—

Ann: —brothers.

Stephen: —and here’s what that tells us: Joseph was not responsible for that. Bitterness was not, first, something he did; it was, first, something that he faced. That story also gives us great hope. Joseph did not let the bitter treatment by his brothers make him a bitter person. There’s hope in that.

Another example of that is Hannah. Hannah struggled with infertility. What a terrible thing for a woman to have to face, and yet, the Scripture says that her rival used to mock her about her infertility. She would provoke her bitterly, the Bible says. There’s another example of how bitterness is not, first, something that I do; it’s, first a condition that I face in this sin-cursed world.

We all face situations where people are treating us in an unjust fashion. [For] Hannah, by the way, you can also add her “Pastor” Eli, who comes alongside her, and sees her praying, and accuses her of being drunk. You have one woman provoking her, because of her inability to have a child; and then, you have her religious leader falsely accusing her. But there’s another example of why we can have hope, because that didn’t make Hannah a bitter woman. In fact, in the very next chapter, she is giving this marvelous worship hymn to God. So, even though she had been treated in such a terrible way by the people around her, that did not make her a bitter woman.

Ann: And Steve, it feels like—right now in our culture, it feels like—there’s a lot of bitterness. It feels like an epidemic.

Stephen: That’s why I think we have to be spiritually authentic. If we just say, “Well, I don’t have any bitterness,” that is not biblically correct, because again, bitterness is not something I do; it’s first a condition I face.

Here’s another example, by the way: it’s the children of Israel, where the Bible says that the Egyptians made their work bitter. There are a lot of people who are in work situations just like that, day after day after day. Their boss is treating them unkindly; their co-workers are treating them in an unjust fashion; or just everything that goes on in a sin-cursed work environment. Again, it’s bitter conditions.

So, then, you say, “Okay, Lord. You’ve told me that in the Word of God. Thank You, because that broadens my concept; but then, what’s the connection point between bitter circumstances we all face and being a bitter individual, that you told us I shouldn’t be?” And the answer is the third category: it’s our heart. One of the most powerful verses on this topic is Proverbs 14:10: “The heart knows its own bitterness.” That’s where all of this is played out: “What goes on in my heart in the way I respond to unjust treatment?—to the way I respond to the disappointments in my life?” Before anybody else knows about it; before I speak about it, the question is: “How do I process that inmy heart?”

The beautiful thing is, through the power of the redemptive work of Jesus Christ, I can have a new heart. I have the Holy Spirit working inside of me so, in my heart, in my inner person, I can process these hurts in a way that doesn’t just, in a determinative fashion, mandate that I become bitter. In fact, the Scripture would suggest I can actually be growing in my sweet relationship with Christ, as a result of the hurt, in a way that prevents me from becoming a bitter person. That’s the goal, and that’s the hope.

Dave: So how do we—because I hear you talk about the bitter heart—and I think, sometimes—I’d love to say “I have a friend,” [Laughter] who can’t acknowledge that he has a bitter heart. There are times in my life where I [say], “Oh, I’m good! I’m not bitter about that.” And yet, it will reveal itself eventually. I think it’s, often, we don’t know it. Yet our heart is giving us symptoms; we can feel it, but I think we live in this denial thing, like, “I’m not bitter.” And some of us, as followers of Christ, we think it’s sin to be bitter; so, do we live in a denial? Is it always apparent, or is there something that gets triggered?

Ann: I was going to say, Dave, it’s so funny because—

Dave: —are you going to talk about my bitter heart? [Laughter]

Ann: Yes, I might.

Stephen: Turn off the mics! [Laughter]

Ann: I was just going to say—because Dave’s great: “I’m fine,” “I’m good.” I know that you feel like you’re really good, because when you were trying to forgive your dad for leaving you, for the alcoholism, for the abandonment of your family, I remember you couldn’t even talk about your dad without having this emotion rise up. I said to you, “You know, I think you need to forgive your dad.”

Dave: She didn’t say, “I think.” [Laughter] I’ll never forget it. And, again, I hadn’t been able to identify. We were early in our marriage, so it was the first five or six years; but she literally said one day, “You know, you’re going to need to forgive your dad.” I looked at her like,—

Ann: —“I’m fine!”

Dave: —“I did that years ago.”

Stephen: Yes.

Dave: Then, as I stepped away and said, “Is there truth in what Ann said?” it was, “Oh, my goodness! There’s a hardened root in there.”

Stephen: Yes.

Dave: Then the question—and I know we’re going to get there eventually; we don’t need to get there immediately—is: “What do I do with that?”

Stephen: Yes; well, I think there are several very important biblical answers to the question: “How do I win the battle in my heart with these bitter circumstances?” One of the biggest answers from the Word of God is to learn to practice lament.

Dave: I don’t think we understand lament, so keep going.

Stephen: I’m certainly not suggesting that I’m an expert on it. I don’t know if, when you’re talking about one book, you ought to recommend somebody else’s, [Laughter] but my friend, Mark Vroegop, who is a pastor up at College Park Church in Indianapolis, wrote a book called Dark Clouds, Deep Mercy on the topic of lament. I quote it rather extensively in that section of my book, because he just did such a marvelous service.

Dave: Yes.

Stephen: I think, to the church of Jesus Christ—one of the things that he points out is that at least a third of the psalms in the Bible are lament psalms. That’s pretty fascinating when you think about it, because Psalms—that’s our worship hymnal!

Dave: Right.

Stephen: Isn’t that supposed to be happy, happy, happy? [Laughter] Not if you read the psalms honestly.

Dave: Right.

Stephen: It’s amazing how you hear God’s people—people who are being held up to us as examples of how you talk to the Lord; they’re practicing spiritual candor. They’re bringing their hurts right to the throne of grace; they’re bringing their questions. In fact, it’s pretty close to them bringing their complaints right to the throne of God.

We have developed, in an evangelical culture, the belief that: “Well, you don’t do that. You don’t ask questions. You don’t act as if there are some things that are troubling you. You just put on a plastic smile on a broken heart and act.”

Ann: Yes.

Stephen: Or for men: “Men don’t admit that they’re hurting,” “Big boys don’t cry,” “Just rub some dirt on it,” etc., etc.

Dave: Right.

Stephen: Not if we’re going to let the Bible be our guide. We ought to follow the example of the psalmists. We ought to learn how to practice biblical lament. I’m convinced, in my life, that one of the reasons that I struggle with bitterness is because I’m not as honest with the Lord as I ought to be.

You start wondering, “How many more years do I have to get this right?” Thankfully, my identity is not wrapped up in me getting it right. Ultimately, it’s wrapped up in my identity in Christ; but I want to spend the remaining years of my life being more honest with the Lord, immediately, with the pain, the hurt, the disappointment, so that it doesn’t turn into bitterness. Again, that’s the whole point of Hebrews 12:15: “See to it that you don’t fall short of the grace of God. Don’t let this root of bitterness spring up, cause trouble, and defile many.”

One of the ways I can do that—as a pastor, and as a father, and as a husband, and as a friend—is walk very quickly from bitter circumstances to the very throne of my God and cry out to Him: “Hear my cry, O God. Attend unto my prayer. When my heart is overwhelmed, lead me to the rock that is higher than I.” Psalm 61:1,2

There may be some of our listeners who, the truth of the matter is, they have become bitter people. That’s just the honest truth. In fact, like one woman in the Bible named Naomi, she started looking bitter. I really do believe, if you don’t handle this area in your life, it will affect the way that you look. One of the ways that I can prevent that is by very quickly going to the throne of God. Some of our listeners may say, “You know, the reason I’m a bitter person today is I’ve never spoken honestly to the Lord about these hurts.”

Ann: It’s interesting. I took some women on a trip to Israel. We were doing a lot of healing conversations and talks. I talked to this one woman—she was in her late 50s—and she said, “I cannot forgive my mom.” As we talked about it, I said, “Do you feel like it’s affecting you?” She said, “Absolutely!” And then she said, “And I will not forgive my mom.”

Instead of convincing her, or taking verses and thumping her on the head: “Oh, the Bible says you need to forgive,” I said, “Let’s do this.” As you’re talking about this, the lament, I’m wondering, “Oh, could I have done something right?” Because I often feel like I’m failing in this area. I said, “I want you to picture yourself standing before God. I want you to picture your mom”—who had passed away—“with Jesus.”

Let me add this, too: she had told me, “The reason I can’t forgive my mom is because, every single day of my life, she would take a broom, and she would beat my sister and I with the handle of this broom, all day long.” She said, “How do I forgive that?” She said, “It marked me all the days of my life, and I will not forgive her.”

She has this experience. I said, “Okay, can you just picture yourself in your mind? Use your imagination.” She said, “Yes.” I said, “I want you to tell your mom how she harmed you.” She had never done that before. She started going on and on to her mom—angry, yelling—angry at what this has caused her. Then I said, “Now, I want you to take that. I want you to tell Jesus what that has meant and how it has affected you.” So, again, she’s crying; she’s yelling.

I’m wondering: “Was that lamenting?”

Stephen: Oh, I think it was. I just look back on my life. I view that kind of conversation as being disrespectful to the Lord.

Ann: Yes.

Stephen: I’m not supposed to complain to God, as if He doesn’t know about the situation that I’m facing already. It really results in a shallowness in my relationship with God if I’m not practicing authenticity. Perhaps, many of us would do well to spend more time in the psalms, especially those lament psalms.

I had the privilege, recently, of working with some counselees. I encouraged them to write a psalm of lament—so, to follow one of the lament psalms, either one of the shorter ones or one of the longer ones; but to actually write their own, and tell their story to the Lord, and then, just pray that back to the Lord. And when they would think about that event or that hurt from the past, then they can start factoring in: “But God knows about that. I’ve been talking with the Lord about that,” and “I have found His grace to be sufficient.”

So, it’s not just me and the person who offended me, or me and the person who hurt me; now, it’s my lovingly heavenly Father. We’re continuing to have conversations. I would actually get to the place—and this is really hard, but when I can get to the place— of saying, “It was good for me that I was afflicted—”

Ann: —as Joseph did.

Stephen: That’s a hard place. Absolutely! “You meant it for evil,”—

Ann: —yes—

Stephen: —but that’s not the end of the sentence—“but God meant it for good.”

“It was good for me that I was afflicted that I might learn Thy statutes.” You know, we’ve mentioned Hebrews 12:15, which is one of the seminal passages on bitterness. The context is crucial; that’s a context about our heavenly Father’s discipline in our life, and we don’t like that. We don’t like it at all,—

Dave: —right.

Stephen: —because we don’t like God to be sovereign, right? We want God to be Santa Claus. When we start to understand God loves us too much just to give us everything we want, God always gives us a blend of blessings but, also, challenges, in order to help conform us more to the image of Christ. So, when I’m factoring the sovereignty of God into my hurt [and] into my pain, it helps me to start viewing—the bitterness is melting away, and the looking for opportunities to become more like Christ in the midst of that challenge or as a result of it.

But when I can get to the place of saying, “God’s working that for good in my life”—

I can’t acknowledge God’s sovereign work in my life, helping me become more like Christ, and be bitter simultaneously. You cannot hold those two truths. So, you’re getting rid of one in your heart, and you’re embracing one that is far, far sweeter.

Dave: Well, talk about what that woman ended up as she took it to Jesus.

Ann: As she lamented to Jesus, you could feel—at first, there was such anger—the more she talked, it was almost like a healing balm came over her. I said, “I want you to bottle up all the feelings that you have, and even the bitterness, and just picture yourself handing it to Jesus.” We use our imaginations for all kinds of things; so, to, visually, just picture her handing it to Him was so interesting because, as she handed it—she didn’t want to at first, because—sometimes that bitterness becomes our clothing.

Stephen: Oh, absolutely.

Ann: It’s our baggage that we’ve been carrying for years.

Stephen: Absolutely.

Ann: “It was the first time,” she said, “that I’ve handed Him all of that.” And what she said was, [that] as she handed it to Him, she had all these images and remembrances of what her mom told her about her own upbringing, of how her mom had been beaten, and abandoned, and isolated.

Stephen: Yes.

Ann: It was horrific. I think what she was saying was, “I felt like, in that moment of remembrance, I thought, ‘Oh, my mom was only reacting out of what had been given to her. And now, I have a choice: I can either pass on my bitterness, or I can allow God’s healing to begin to renew me and to renew my spirit.’”

She walked out of there—and it’s not a one time, “Oh, it’s all done,”—I’m sure—process.

Stephen: No, it’s not. I’m glad you said that. You’re right.

Ann: Because many times, it takes years to unpack some of that; but you could tell there was a lightness about her that she hadn’t had in a long time.

Stephen: Isn’t that powerful, to know that it’s a choice?

Ann: Yes.

Dave: If I’m a listener right now, and there’s an action step, I think it’s obvious. It’s a day to lament.

Stephen: It is.

Dave: It’s a day to, maybe, get a journal out and write your own. I don’t know what the percentage would be, but when I read through Psalms, and I see the laments, often, those Psalms end in a totally different place.


Stephen: They absolutely do.

Dave: When they’re honest, and they don’t hold it back, it’s like, “God, I’m struggling with this. This is where I am. I don’t understand.” And then you get to the end, often—even Psalm 73, one of my favorites, where he’s just complaining about the prosperity of the wicked; and then, he says, “I entered the sanctuary of God.”

Stephen: That’s right.

Dave: It’s like: “When I finally was honest with my struggle, I got a different perspective.” And again, it’s not a magic wish, but man, if you, today, took the bitterness you’re feeling, and put pen to paper, or get your phone out and digit, or just pray it. . .

I mean this, Stephen, when I read that section on lament in your book, I was like, “We don’t do that enough.”

Stephen: I agree. I don’t do that enough.

Ann: We don’t either.


Dave: Yes. So, I would encourage a listener: “Today’s your day to start the journey toward, as you call it, a life filled with hope. It starts with maybe a lament today.”

Stephen: Amen.


Shelby: Honesty (honesty with God) is something we think we’re not allowed to do, sometimes. But just as Dave was saying there, the psalms give us permission to be honest with the Lord. Sometimes, we aren’t doing that well! So, to be honest with Him, and know that He can handle it, is something we need to remind ourselves of. Ask Him to help you, and your lament just might turn into praise; it also might not, and that’s okay, but what better place to be than in the presence of God when you’re doing well or when you’re doing horribly?

I’m Shelby Abbott, and you’ve been listening to Dave and Ann Wilson with Stephen Viars on FamilyLife Today. Stephen’s written a book called Overcoming Bitterness: Moving from Life’s Greatest Hurts to a Life Filled with Joy. Doesn’t that sound nice? It does to me. Well, you can get your copy by going online right now to, or you can find it in the show notes. Or just give us a call at 800-358-6329; again, that number is 800-“F” as in family, “L” as in life, and then the word, “TODAY.”

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Now, in the Christian life, we talk a lot about forgiveness, but some people just really don’t know the practicalities of how to do that. Have you ever wondered how to forgive someone? And if it really makes a difference when you do forgive? Well, author and pastor, Stephen Viars, is back tomorrow to explore how forgiveness can turn bitterness on its head. That’s tomorrow. We hope you’ll join us.

On behalf of Dave and Ann Wilson, I’m Shelby Abbott. We will see you back next time for another edition of FamilyLife Today.

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